Cox high-speed Internet idiocy

[Paul Wylie]

I have a .name domain that I bought a few years ago. It was mostly out of
fear that some day, Mailbank/NetIdentity would go belly-up or put the
screws to me (the screws are being applied slowly--what once cost $5 a
year now costs $55 a year).

I don't use the .name domain much because I recently bought a .org domain
that I'm starting to transition to. At any rate, my webmail account at
Panix is configured to use my wylie.name return address. Today, I
attempted to send a message to a friend of mine with Cox High Speed
Internet service from that account and it bounced because Cox claims that
wylie.name doesn't exist.

This infuriates me because I am also a Cox High Speed Internet customer.
I attempted to send a message to the postmaster account at Cox to express
my anger, but it also bounced. I finally used my shell account (where I
have pine configured with my new .org return address) to forward the
bounces to Cox and to express my rage.

So, does anyone know if Cox's refusal to accept email from valid accounts
at its postmaster account is a violation of any important rules? Can I
rat them out the corporate shills at ICANN who won't do a damn thing
anyway?

--Paul
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[Penury]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC), Paul Wylie

Post by Paul Wylie
I have a .name domain that I bought a few years ago. It was mostly out of
fear that some day, Mailbank/NetIdentity would go belly-up or put the
screws to me (the screws are being applied slowly--what once cost $5 a
year now costs $55 a year).

Hi Paul:
Do I understand you to say you're paying $55 per year for a domain
name ?
I was paying ~$35 per year to register.com for my domain name, then
transfered to GoDaddy (in Tempe) for $7.75 per year including a one
year extension.
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp?e=com


-=Bill Eckle=-
***@wmeckle.com
Vanity Web pages at:
http://www.wmeckle.com

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Penury
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC), Paul Wylie

Post by Paul Wylie
I have a .name domain that I bought a few years ago. It was mostly out of
fear that some day, Mailbank/NetIdentity would go belly-up or put the
screws to me (the screws are being applied slowly--what once cost $5 a
year now costs $55 a year).

Do I understand you to say you're paying $55 per year for a domain
name ?
I was paying ~$35 per year to register.com for my domain name, then
transfered to GoDaddy (in Tempe) for $7.75 per year including a one
year extension.
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp?e=com
-=Bill Eckle=-
http://www.wmeckle.com

Motion seconded... I moved all five of my domain registrations to
GoDaddy last June.

...Jim Thompson

[Paul Wylie]

Post by Penury
Do I understand you to say you're paying $55 per year for a domain
name ?

No. I don't own wylie.net. That's owned by NetIdentity (formerly
MailBank). They used to charge $5 a year for mail forwarding from an
account in their domain to an account of my choosing. In the beginning,
they also offered free web address forwarding (i.e., turning
paul.wylie.net into a URL at some ISP of my choosing). Ever since I
signed up with them, they've raised prices every time I needed to renew.

First, they raised the cost of the account to $10 a year (no big deal).
Then, they unbundled the web-forwarding and priced it at $20 a year. Now,
the email forwarding is $25 a year and the web forwarding is $30 a year.
It's only getting more expensive as time goes on.

Post by Penury
I was paying ~$35 per year to register.com for my domain name, then
transfered to GoDaddy (in Tempe) for $7.75 per year including a one
year extension.
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp?e=com

Actually, GoDaddy's in North Scottsdale.

I bought my .org domain through GoDaddy. I registered it for 10 years and
also subscribed to GoDaddy's "Domains By Proxy" service to cut down on the
spam I get.

I suspect I'll ditch the @wylie.net address in January (when my current
renewal comes due). I might retain the email address for one additional
year and ditch the website forwarding, but I'm not sure.

Everything's much simpler now that I own my own domain, although the costs
are higher, because now I have to pay somebody to host the domain.

--Paul
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[Penury]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:28:19 +0000 (UTC), Paul Wylie

Post by Paul Wylie
Everything's much simpler now that I own my own domain, although the costs
are higher, because now I have to pay somebody to host the domain.

Hi Paul:
Your-Site at:
http://www.your-site.com/
Hosts my Web page for $5 per month (paid yearly $60), which I've found
pretty reliable and reasonable.



-=Bill Eckle=-
***@wmeckle.com
Vanity Web pages at:
http://www.wmeckle.com

[Paul Wylie]

Post by Penury
http://www.your-site.com/
Hosts my Web page for $5 per month (paid yearly $60), which I've found
pretty reliable and reasonable.

I'm using GoDaddy's low-end hosting for $7.95 a month. Even at $60 a
year, that's more expensive than the $55 a year I'd be paying NetIdentity,
although I'm getting a lot more for my money.

--Paul
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[Bob Nielsen]

Post by Paul Wylie

Post by Penury
Do I understand you to say you're paying $55 per year for a domain
name ?

No. I don't own wylie.net. That's owned by NetIdentity (formerly
MailBank). They used to charge $5 a year for mail forwarding from an
account in their domain to an account of my choosing. In the beginning,
they also offered free web address forwarding (i.e., turning
paul.wylie.net into a URL at some ISP of my choosing). Ever since I
signed up with them, they've raised prices every time I needed to renew.
First, they raised the cost of the account to $10 a year (no big deal).
Then, they unbundled the web-forwarding and priced it at $20 a year. Now,
the email forwarding is $25 a year and the web forwarding is $30 a year.
It's only getting more expensive as time goes on.

Post by Penury
I was paying ~$35 per year to register.com for my domain name, then
transfered to GoDaddy (in Tempe) for $7.75 per year including a one
year extension.
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp?e=com

Actually, GoDaddy's in North Scottsdale.
I bought my .org domain through GoDaddy. I registered it for 10 years and
also subscribed to GoDaddy's "Domains By Proxy" service to cut down on the
spam I get.
renewal comes due). I might retain the email address for one additional
year and ditch the website forwarding, but I'm not sure.
Everything's much simpler now that I own my own domain, although the costs
are higher, because now I have to pay somebody to host the domain.

I got my domain through registrydomains.com for ~$9 per year including
email forwarding to my oz.net (part of theriver.com) account. I manage
the DNS stuff on their server through a simple web form. I'm hosting
my own web stuff and thought about runing my own mail server (which I
am already running internally and for outgoing mail, but I have port 25
blocked on my firewall) however I still use my oz.net address for most
email, so I probably will keep it that way.

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC), Paul Wylie

Post by Paul Wylie
I have a .name domain that I bought a few years ago. It was mostly out of
fear that some day, Mailbank/NetIdentity would go belly-up or put the
screws to me (the screws are being applied slowly--what once cost $5 a
year now costs $55 a year).
I don't use the .name domain much because I recently bought a .org domain
that I'm starting to transition to. At any rate, my webmail account at
Panix is configured to use my wylie.name return address. Today, I
attempted to send a message to a friend of mine with Cox High Speed
Internet service from that account and it bounced because Cox claims that
wylie.name doesn't exist.
This infuriates me because I am also a Cox High Speed Internet customer.
I attempted to send a message to the postmaster account at Cox to express
my anger, but it also bounced. I finally used my shell account (where I
have pine configured with my new .org return address) to forward the
bounces to Cox and to express my rage.
So, does anyone know if Cox's refusal to accept email from valid accounts
at its postmaster account is a violation of any important rules? Can I
rat them out the corporate shills at ICANN who won't do a damn thing
anyway?
--Paul
** Note "removemunged" in email address and remove to reply. **

Same thing happened to me but, since I'm a mean old fart and called
the techie "unfit to flip burgers", I got escalated up to someone on
the east coast who knew what was happening...

It's a DNS server issue... if Cox' DNS server can't find your domain
name it won't allow you to send mail.

It's an on-going west coast DNS server problem (was happening to me
about once a month).

The east coast tech had me change to smtp.east.cox.net and the problem
vanished (at least so far).

I hope you can find a rule they are violating... that would be nice.

Please keep me posted.

(I keep asshole mode idling and ready to throw into high gear at a
moment's notice ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[a***@MIX.COM]

Post by Paul Wylie
Today, I
attempted to send a message to a friend of mine with Cox High Speed
Internet service from that account and it bounced because Cox claims that
wylie.name doesn't exist.

Hmmm... That must be why Hosun is using my name resolvers.

Plus the other day when I was busy imposing on him Cox went
down and stayed down for quite a while... some hours.

Post by Paul Wylie
I attempted to send a message to the postmaster account at Cox to express
my anger, but it also bounced.

And ALL mail to a postmaster is supposed to be accepted too,
regardless of anything and everything.

Post by Paul Wylie
So, does anyone know if Cox's refusal to accept email from valid accounts
at its postmaster account is a violation of any important rules?

It's in some RFC, don't know which one tho.

Post by Paul Wylie
Can I
rat them out the corporate shills at ICANN who won't do a damn thing
anyway?

Wewll, they finally did jump all over verisign's sitefinder
crap, and did that pretty well too. But so far it's a very
rare exception to normal at icann.

I believe all these changes at Cox are due to the two viri of
ca. 18-Sept-03 which are now pumping out junk mail like crazy...

Billy Y..