Test - Cox.net strikes again

[Jim Thompson]

Cox.net strikes again

Lost their new server :-(

Anyone use supernews? Comments?

...Jim Thompson

[Joel Kolstad]

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone use supernews? Comments?

No, although when I was looking for NNTP access I ended up with Forte, Inc.
(the guys who make the Agent newsreader program). Their cheapest deal is
$3/mo for 5GB/mo worth of news, which is plenty if you're not a frequent user
of the .binaries or .warez groups! I've been happy with them so far...

Link: http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:34:49 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"

Post by Joel Kolstad

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone use supernews? Comments?

No, although when I was looking for NNTP access I ended up with Forte, Inc.
(the guys who make the Agent newsreader program). Their cheapest deal is
$3/mo for 5GB/mo worth of news, which is plenty if you're not a frequent user
of the .binaries or .warez groups! I've been happy with them so far...
Link: http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

Looks interesting.

Cox lost their way yesterday morning, and their news server is
gradually loading this morning, starting at 9AM MST TODAY, so it looks
like 24 hours worth of news is gone :-(

Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

[John Woodgate]

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

What, here? Surely you jest? (;-)

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:14:41 +0000, John Woodgate

Post by John Woodgate
I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

What, here? Surely you jest? (;-)

I thought I might have missed some profound leftist weenie utterance
;-)

I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

...Jim Thompson

[John Woodgate]

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

Did you mean 'Preparation'?

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Post by John Woodgate
I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

Did you mean 'Preparation'?

No, of course not. The topic in question, in fact, has almost the
exact opposite effect.

;-P
Rich

BTW, could anybody find the time to check if this crosspost shows up
on alt.primenet.recovery ? My newsserver doesn't have it, but I'm
wondering if, if it's in the headers, it gets crossposted to the
servers that _do_ carry it.

Thanks!
Rich

[William Eckle]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:10:19 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
BTW, could anybody find the time to check if this crosspost shows up
on alt.primenet.recovery ? My newsserver doesn't have it, but I'm
wondering if, if it's in the headers, it gets crossposted to the
servers that _do_ carry it.

It sure does, I subscribe to primenet recovery and no others (except
rec.audio.high-end) and I get all the babble by the politicos.

-=Bill Eckle=-
***@wmeckle.com
Vanity Web Page at:
http://www.wmeckle.com

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

It passed by almost 60% IIRC but now there is a lawsuit planned against it.

As for all the propositions, well, I guess the spending lobby won't
learn before the last dime has been frittered away. Even then they might
not learn. If CA was a business, oh boy.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:50:05 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

It passed by almost 60% IIRC but now there is a lawsuit planned against it.
As for all the propositions, well, I guess the spending lobby won't
learn before the last dime has been frittered away. Even then they might
not learn. If CA was a business, oh boy.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Looks like California is its own worst enemy. But keep it up guys,
the businesses you are losing are moving to Arizona ;-)

Google and, just announced this week, EBay.

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Looks like California is its own worst enemy. But keep it up guys,
the businesses you are losing are moving to Arizona ;-)
Google and, just announced this week, EBay.

Recently we had some newspaper stories that the exodus ain't so bad. But
mostly by papers with a well known political twist. They are fooling
themselves about it. One day people will find out that you can't eat
those plush fat pension benefits they keep doling out.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:09:35 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Looks like California is its own worst enemy. But keep it up guys,
the businesses you are losing are moving to Arizona ;-)
Google and, just announced this week, EBay.

Recently we had some newspaper stories that the exodus ain't so bad. But
mostly by papers with a well known political twist. They are fooling
themselves about it. One day people will find out that you can't eat
those plush fat pension benefits they keep doling out.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Unless government spending is curtailed, California is going to have
its own private recession/depression.

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Unless government spending is curtailed, California is going to have
its own private recession/depression.

I know. The problem is that the left does not understand that.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Unless government spending is curtailed, California is going to have
its own private recession/depression.

I know. The problem is that the left does not understand that.

THe only difference between "the left" and "the right" is where they
think their pork is coming from. The Dumbocrats just keep taxing
everybody unto slavery, and want to spend it on social programs, and
the Repugnacons simply print more counterfeit money or take out a big
fat loan, making them beholdin to whoever owns the bank, and mortgaging
your children's future. And _they_ don't spend it on feeding the poor,
they spend it on weapons of mass destruction to impose their will on
whoever they can get away with attacking.

Either way, taxation is theft.

Say, Jim, you never did answer my question, posted in response to
your self-accolade: "I'm older than dirt, and I know everything".

The question was, "OK, since you know everything, howcome the Republicans
flip-flopped from the party of Limited Government and Separation of Church
and State to the party of Maximum Government and Fuck the Constitution?

Thanks,
Rich

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:33:38 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
And _they_ don't spend it on feeding the poor,
they spend it on weapons of mass destruction to impose their will on
whoever they can get away with attacking.

You're a fucking retard.

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:33:38 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
The question was, "OK, since you know everything, howcome the Republicans
flip-flopped from the party of Limited Government and Separation of Church
and State to the party of Maximum Government and Fuck the Constitution?

It ain't just the republicans, retard boy. They are all in "take the
money and run" "while you still can" mode...

We all already got fucked, we just don't know it yet.

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:07:45 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:50:05 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

It passed by almost 60% IIRC but now there is a lawsuit planned against it.
As for all the propositions, well, I guess the spending lobby won't
learn before the last dime has been frittered away. Even then they might
not learn. If CA was a business, oh boy.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Looks like California is its own worst enemy. But keep it up guys,
the businesses you are losing are moving to Arizona ;-)
Google and, just announced this week, EBay.
...Jim Thompson

That's funny, but true as well.

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:14:41 +0000, John Woodgate

Post by John Woodgate
I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

...

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by John Woodgate

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

What, here? Surely you jest? (;-)

I thought I might have missed some profound leftist weenie utterance
;-)
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

According to this morning's (Thurs, 11/10/05) TeeVee NooZ the NRA
has already filed a lawsuit to get it declared unconstitutional.

It will be interesting to see how that comes out.

In variously unrelated nooz, I voted last Tuesday, and everything
I voted for got defeated. (I voted against the unions and the
pork barrel trough).

Hope This Helps!
Rich

[marc182]

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:14:41 +0000, John Woodgate

Post by John Woodgate
I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson

...

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by John Woodgate

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

What, here? Surely you jest? (;-)

I thought I might have missed some profound leftist weenie utterance
;-)
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

According to this morning's (Thurs, 11/10/05) TeeVee NooZ the NRA
has already filed a lawsuit to get it declared unconstitutional.
It will be interesting to see how that comes out.

Very difficult. The Constitution applies to the Federal Government, not
state and city governments. Even if unconstitutional, it can still
stand.

[DaveC]

Post by marc182

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
According to this morning's (Thurs, 11/10/05) TeeVee NooZ the NRA
has already filed a lawsuit to get it declared unconstitutional.
It will be interesting to see how that comes out.

Very difficult. The Constitution applies to the Federal Government, not
state and city governments. Even if unconstitutional, it can still
stand.

Not so. Read any basic book on US Government.

[Dennis M. O'Connor]

Post by DaveC

Post by marc182

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
According to this morning's (Thurs, 11/10/05) TeeVee NooZ the NRA
has already filed a lawsuit to get it declared unconstitutional.
It will be interesting to see how that comes out.

Very difficult. The Constitution applies to the Federal Government, not
state and city governments. Even if unconstitutional, it can still
stand.

Not so. Read any basic book on US Government.

Or the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which reads in part:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges
or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive
any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor
deny
to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
--
Dennis M. O'Connor ***@primenet.com

[James T. White]

Post by Jim Thompson
I was particularly interested in the results of the election regarding
the San Francisco Gun Ban Initiative, Proposition H.

Only San Francisco voters would pass something this stupid.

[John Fields]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox lost their way yesterday morning, and their news server is
gradually loading this morning, starting at 9AM MST TODAY, so it looks
like 24 hours worth of news is gone :-(
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

---
Yeah, but you've got so many folks plonked it wouldn't matter who
your ISP was, you still would have missed it.

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:55:47 -0600, John Fields

Post by John Fields
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox lost their way yesterday morning, and their news server is
gradually loading this morning, starting at 9AM MST TODAY, so it looks
like 24 hours worth of news is gone :-(
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)

---
Yeah, but you've got so many folks plonked it wouldn't matter who
your ISP was, you still would have missed it.

Hahahahaha... half of all plonkers are liars about doing it.

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:34:49 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"

Post by Joel Kolstad

Post by Jim Thompson
Anyone use supernews? Comments?

No, although when I was looking for NNTP access I ended up with Forte, Inc.
(the guys who make the Agent newsreader program). Their cheapest deal is
$3/mo for 5GB/mo worth of news, which is plenty if you're not a frequent user
of the .binaries or .warez groups! I've been happy with them so far...
Link: http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

Looks interesting.
Cox lost their way yesterday morning, and their news server is
gradually loading this morning, starting at 9AM MST TODAY, so it looks
like 24 hours worth of news is gone :-(
Anyone post anything useful yesterday ?:-)
...Jim Thompson

If their retention on a simple text group is only one day, somebody
needs to smack their admin upside his retarded head.

If it is more than one day, it will catch back up from the hiccup.

[Bob Nielsen]

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

I was using readfreenews.net for a while, but that seems to have gone away
in the last week.

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?

It's obviously a liberal weenie conspiracy. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

[NunYa Bidness]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:43:00 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?

It's obviously a liberal weenie conspiracy. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich

Some weenies don't even know that they are a weenie... liberal or
otherwise.

[j***@nowhere.net]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Many of your posts extole the virtues of living in Arizona. The weather
is always fine and your living conditions are better than all the other places
you make fun of.

One would think that if Arizona is so wonderful, you could find a better
ISP.

Jim

[Jim Thompson]

Post by j***@nowhere.net
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Many of your posts extole the virtues of living in Arizona. The weather
is always fine and your living conditions are better than all the other places
you make fun of.
One would think that if Arizona is so wonderful, you could find a better
ISP.
Jim

Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

But, like most service organizations today, Cox support is staffed by
people who failed the burger-flipper test ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[Dennis M. O'Connor]

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

I've got 1.5mb/sec DSL, and Qwest claims they can deliver 5mb/s.
So maybe DSL isn't "way slow by comparison" anymore ?

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:16:01 -0700, "Dennis M. O'Connor"

Post by Dennis M. O'Connor

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

I've got 1.5mb/sec DSL, and Qwest claims they can deliver 5mb/s.
So maybe DSL isn't "way slow by comparison" anymore ?
--

What Qwest claims and what Qwest delivers seems to differ somewhat. I
did the Qwest ADSL stuff, then switched to Cox. I get at least 3Mb/s
on slow days.

...Jim Thompson

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:16:01 -0700, "Dennis M. O'Connor"

Post by Dennis M. O'Connor

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

I've got 1.5mb/sec DSL, and Qwest claims they can deliver 5mb/s.
So maybe DSL isn't "way slow by comparison" anymore ?
--

What Qwest claims and what Qwest delivers seems to differ somewhat. I
did the Qwest ADSL stuff, then switched to Cox. I get at least 3Mb/s
on slow days.
...Jim Thompson

Should have added... Qwest was about 750Kb/s on a good day.

...Jim Thompson

[Dennis M. O'Connor]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:16:01 -0700, "Dennis M. O'Connor"

Post by Dennis M. O'Connor

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

I've got 1.5mb/sec DSL, and Qwest claims they can deliver 5mb/s.
So maybe DSL isn't "way slow by comparison" anymore ?

What Qwest claims and what Qwest delivers seems to differ somewhat. I
did the Qwest ADSL stuff, then switched to Cox. I get at least 3Mb/s
on slow days.
...Jim Thompson

Should have added... Qwest was about 750Kb/s on a good day.

Well, I'm routinely seeing 160KB/sec (1.3Mbps) on downloads,
and similar numbers from DSLreports. YMMV.
--
Dennis M. O'Connor ***@primenet.com

[Bob Nielsen]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:16:01 -0700, "Dennis M. O'Connor"

Post by Dennis M. O'Connor

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.

I've got 1.5mb/sec DSL, and Qwest claims they can deliver 5mb/s.
So maybe DSL isn't "way slow by comparison" anymore ?
--

What Qwest claims and what Qwest delivers seems to differ somewhat. I
did the Qwest ADSL stuff, then switched to Cox. I get at least 3Mb/s
on slow days.
...Jim Thompson

Should have added... Qwest was about 750Kb/s on a good day.
...Jim Thompson

I get about 1.2 Mb/s down and 800 kb/s up with Qwest (in WA).

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:50:40 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by j***@nowhere.net
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Many of your posts extole the virtues of living in Arizona. The weather
is always fine and your living conditions are better than all the other places
you make fun of.
One would think that if Arizona is so wonderful, you could find a better
ISP.
Jim

Cox is the only source of a high speed connection (3-5Mb/s download)
other than DSL, which is w-a-a-a-y slo-o-o-o-w by comparison.
But, like most service organizations today, Cox support is staffed by
people who failed the burger-flipper test ;-)
...Jim Thompson

My ISP, LMI (LanMinds) in Berkeley, is staffed by smart, funny people
who answer the phone and love to solve problems.

John

[NunYa Bidness]

Post by j***@nowhere.net
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Many of your posts extole the virtues of living in Arizona. The weather
is always fine and your living conditions are better than all the other places
you make fun of.
One would think that if Arizona is so wonderful, you could find a better
ISP.
Jim

Cable access to the internet is among the fastest the consumer can
get for a good value (price (comparatively speaking)).

That said, there are seldom two cable companies that wire the same
area. Doh!

So... you want him to downgrade, in order to "upgrade"???

[Richard Kanarek]

Greetings,

I've used Supernews for a few years now. I'm quite pleased with them.

The only "bad" thing about Supernews is that they are very hard on
spam. If you enjoy reading about how you can get rich quick or make
your little soldier come to attention, or if you enjoy posting those
sorts of posts, then Supernews isn't for you. <g>

Cordially,
Richard Kanarek

P.S. No, this post wasn't posted with Supernews. I figure that my ISP
owes me usenet service, and I'm going to use it! Okay, at least some
of it. <g>


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Yup, Supernews + Agent. Supernews is very reliable and seems to update
posts very fast.

John

[John Fields]

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:10:41 -0800, John Larkin

Post by j***@nowhere.net
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

Yup, Supernews + Agent. Supernews is very reliable and seems to update
posts very fast.

---
I use Giganews and agent, and I've had no problems with either.

[Charles Jean]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:09:33 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
Cox.net strikes again
Lost their new server :-(
Anyone use supernews? Comments?
...Jim Thompson

___

Jim-
FWIW, I live in Glendale and have used COX for cable TV since they
installed here. High prices, lousy service, and DUMB service techs.
My last service call(~3 weeks ago) involved arrival of the contracted
"service engineer", 3-4 minutes diagnosis, and the installation of an
inline RF amp hooked to the cable box and dangling behind the TV.
Seems to have "fixed" the problem, and my next bill showed a charge of
$45 for the RF amp. Just waiting for the damn thing to break again.
But its the only game in town......*

Because of my distaste for COX, I was using dial-up for an Internet
connection(56K) until DSL came along. Then found out phone lines to
my place were too bad to handle DSL. Satellite was too expensive.
Then a friend of mine mentioned he had signed up for Sprint Broadband.
RF from your roof to either South Mountain or Shaw Butte, then
Earthlink handles the ISP part of it, using user selectable E/W news
servers. I tried it and have had good luck with it. Typically 3-4
Mbps down, 56 Kbps up. Very high reliability, you can call and get a
recording of a known problem in the Phoenix area and estimated fix
time. If they don't recognize a problem, you can stay on the line and
get an INTELLIGENT PERSON on the other end that will doggedly diagnose
your problem and get you going again. So far I've been through 3 or 4
of these sessions(sometimes lasting over an hour) and they won't let
go until the problem's fixed. They're not cheap, probably what you pay
for COX. About a year ago, they raised their monthly about $5 and
announced they would not be doing any installations for awhile due to
approaching a traffic density they might have trouble with(nice
touch). You might want to check them out though, they might have some
more punch built up by now.

*yeah, I know there's always satellite TV. But then I'd miss all
those nice chats with the "knowledgeable service engineers".....

Regards,
Charlie

-Heisenberg may have slept here.