OT: How to remove silicone rubber

[Jim Thompson]

Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.

Shower wall material is Corian.

Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

I don't know much about Corian but silicone is one of the toughest
caulks to get off. The only trick I know is the razor blade thing.
Sometimes I use a piece of Perspex where I sharpened one edge but that
might also scratch. Most likely it isn't just silicone but some kind of
adhesive added in.

Anyway, as far as I know Corian can be buffed.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:10:24 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

I don't know much about Corian but silicone is one of the toughest
caulks to get off. The only trick I know is the razor blade thing.
Sometimes I use a piece of Perspex where I sharpened one edge but that
might also scratch. Most likely it isn't just silicone but some kind of
adhesive added in.
Anyway, as far as I know Corian can be buffed.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Surfing, I found a silicone caulk remover at Ace Hardware. I'll run
over to the corner and see what it claims on the packaging.

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Surfing, I found a silicone caulk remover at Ace Hardware. I'll run
over to the corner and see what it claims on the packaging.

Maybe look for the 1-800 number of the mfg on the web and call their
support. Just to make sure that this stuff won't leach into the Corian.
I remember someone who tried to remove a spot from an engineered-stone
table and they ended up with a more diffused but now permanent stain.

Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:30:23 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Surfing, I found a silicone caulk remover at Ace Hardware. I'll run
over to the corner and see what it claims on the packaging.

Maybe look for the 1-800 number of the mfg on the web and call their
support. Just to make sure that this stuff won't leach into the Corian.
I remember someone who tried to remove a spot from an engineered-stone
table and they ended up with a more diffused but now permanent stain.
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

2.2 mile west at I10 and Baseline:

Ramada Limited
Inn Suites Hotels

Just east of I10 at Priest and Baseline:

Residence Inn by Marriot
Holiday Inn Express
Springhill Suites by Marriot
Towneplace Suites by Marriot

Further east on Baseline and Beck:

AmeriSuites
Candlewood Suites

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Ramada Limited
Inn Suites Hotels
Residence Inn by Marriot
Holiday Inn Express
Springhill Suites by Marriot
Towneplace Suites by Marriot
AmeriSuites
Candlewood Suites

Thanks!

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[K `Sleep]

I have found that good old penetrating oil, such as WD40 works. It seems to
seep under the rubber over a period of time, letting it go. This is the
exact same thing as the official rubber remover, which is a oily product,
that seems to work the same way.
Just make certain that the oil doesn't soak into your surface, test it on a
inconspicuous area first

Kim

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Ramada Limited
Inn Suites Hotels
Residence Inn by Marriot
Holiday Inn Express
Springhill Suites by Marriot
Towneplace Suites by Marriot
AmeriSuites
Candlewood Suites

Thanks!
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Harry Dellamano]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-***@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)
Regards, Joerg

Jim,
You must have an extra bedroom in that shack of yours!
Give a fellow SED a break! I'm sure Joerg will bring the wine.
Harry
PS, it's nicer to let your mate remove the rubber and silicone is usually
only required when your Johnson is too limp for the task at hand. But if you
are having side effects from big blue, that is probably the only way to go.

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:08:07 GMT, "Harry Dellamano"

Post by Harry Dellamano
message

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)
Regards, Joerg

Jim,
You must have an extra bedroom in that shack of yours!
Give a fellow SED a break! I'm sure Joerg will bring the wine.
Harry
PS, it's nicer to let your mate remove the rubber and silicone is usually
only required when your Johnson is too limp for the task at hand. But if you
are having side effects from big blue, that is probably the only way to go.

<SMIRK> True. We have two extra bedrooms ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[Joseph2k]

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Surfing, I found a silicone caulk remover at Ace Hardware. I'll run
over to the corner and see what it claims on the packaging.

Maybe look for the 1-800 number of the mfg on the web and call their
support. Just to make sure that this stuff won't leach into the Corian.
I remember someone who tried to remove a spot from an engineered-stone
table and they ended up with a more diffused but now permanent stain.
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

For going cheap i like Motel 6. They are common but not everywhere.

[Richard H.]

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Heading East on Baseline's not the greatest neighborhood, unless you're
visiting the upscale strip joint or the outlet mall or the Fry's at 10 &
Baseline.

A bit North on Priest is another Amerisuites at Rio Salado Pkwy in Tempe
(along the dry Salt River near the airport) - I've roomed there as low
as $40-60/nt. It's about 6 miles from where you're looking.

Cheers,
Richard

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Richard H.

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Heading East on Baseline's not the greatest neighborhood,

Really ?:-)

Post by Richard H.
unless you're
visiting the upscale strip joint

Saw that on the map, didn't actually know it was there.

Post by Richard H.
or the outlet mall

Where Mexican Spanish is the language of choice ;-)

Post by Richard H.
or the Fry's at 10 &
Baseline.

Where the clerks are failed burger-flippers ;-)

Post by Richard H.
A bit North on Priest is another Amerisuites at Rio Salado Pkwy in Tempe
(along the dry Salt River near the airport) - I've roomed there as low
as $40-60/nt. It's about 6 miles from where you're looking.
Cheers,
Richard

...Jim Thompson

[Richard H.]

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Richard H.

Post by Joerg
Do you know a decent hotel near S.Rural and 60 (or E.Baseline) in Tempe?
There's the Embassy Suites but $169 is a bit steep for one night and I
really don't need two rooms and two TVs :-)

Heading East on Baseline's not the greatest neighborhood,

Really ?:-)

D'oh! Er, West...

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Richard H.
unless you're visiting the upscale strip joint

Saw that on the map, didn't actually know it was there.

Ironically, one of the nicer buildings in the area. Kinda out of place
next to a Waffle House. :-)

[Paul Wylie]

Post by Richard H.
Ironically, one of the nicer buildings in the area. Kinda out of place
next to a Waffle House. :-)

Which will forever be known among my peer group as "The Waffle House of
Death!"

Not that we have knowledge of any deaths taking place there. Just that it
smelled like death the one time we tried to stop there for late-night
munchies.

--Paul
** Note "removemunged" in email address and remove to reply. **

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:45:44 +0000 (UTC), Paul Wylie

Post by Paul Wylie

Post by Richard H.
Ironically, one of the nicer buildings in the area. Kinda out of place
next to a Waffle House. :-)

Which will forever be known among my peer group as "The Waffle House of
Death!"
Not that we have knowledge of any deaths taking place there. Just that it
smelled like death the one time we tried to stop there for late-night
munchies.
--Paul
** Note "removemunged" in email address and remove to reply. **

ALL the Waffle Houses impress me like that ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[Joerg]

Hello Richard,

Post by Richard H.
A bit North on Priest is another Amerisuites at Rio Salado Pkwy in Tempe
(along the dry Salt River near the airport) - I've roomed there as low
as $40-60/nt. It's about 6 miles from where you're looking.

That must have been a long, long time ago. I had checked Amerisuites
yesterday. The non-gvt rate was around $150.

I remember paying around $70 for hotel stays in the Phoenix area in the
90's. My impression is that it has roughly doubled. Ok, not as bad as
dentists where the cost seems to inflate 20% each year. Just got a bill
this morning for $800. For one (!) root canal. Ouch. A couple year ago I
had one on a molar on the other side and it was $600. That's almost a
galloping inflation IMHO.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Al]

Post by Joerg
Hello Richard,

Post by Richard H.
A bit North on Priest is another Amerisuites at Rio Salado Pkwy in Tempe
(along the dry Salt River near the airport) - I've roomed there as low
as $40-60/nt. It's about 6 miles from where you're looking.

That must have been a long, long time ago. I had checked Amerisuites
yesterday. The non-gvt rate was around $150.
I remember paying around $70 for hotel stays in the Phoenix area in the
90's. My impression is that it has roughly doubled. Ok, not as bad as
dentists where the cost seems to inflate 20% each year. Just got a bill
this morning for $800. For one (!) root canal. Ouch. A couple year ago I
had one on a molar on the other side and it was $600. That's almost a
galloping inflation IMHO.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Only $800? Can I get the address of that dentist? I could get a round
trip, a stay in a motel, a vacation and that root canal for what I have
to pay in Northeast!

Al

[Joerg]

Hello Al,

Post by Al

Post by Joerg
I remember paying around $70 for hotel stays in the Phoenix area in the
90's. My impression is that it has roughly doubled. Ok, not as bad as
dentists where the cost seems to inflate 20% each year. Just got a bill
this morning for $800. For one (!) root canal. Ouch. A couple year ago I
had one on a molar on the other side and it was $600. That's almost a
galloping inflation IMHO.

Only $800? Can I get the address of that dentist? I could get a round
trip, a stay in a motel, a vacation and that root canal for what I have
to pay in Northeast!

He is a really good dentist, in Cameron Park near Sacramento. But this
was just the root canal. Through an old crown so now it needs a new one
which will tack on $700 or more. And that's just one tooth. There are 31
others that might go off at a moment's notice, who knows. Usually on a
Saturday (costs extra) or just before a return flight like this one did.

Today I joked with someone at church that I might look into dentists
south of the border. He said that this is exactly what a co-worker of
his had done and he was happy about the results. Interesting concept.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:32:44 GMT, Joerg

Post by Joerg
Hello Al,

Post by Al

Post by Joerg
I remember paying around $70 for hotel stays in the Phoenix area in the
90's. My impression is that it has roughly doubled. Ok, not as bad as
dentists where the cost seems to inflate 20% each year. Just got a bill
this morning for $800. For one (!) root canal. Ouch. A couple year ago I
had one on a molar on the other side and it was $600. That's almost a
galloping inflation IMHO.

Only $800? Can I get the address of that dentist? I could get a round
trip, a stay in a motel, a vacation and that root canal for what I have
to pay in Northeast!

He is a really good dentist, in Cameron Park near Sacramento. But this
was just the root canal. Through an old crown so now it needs a new one
which will tack on $700 or more. And that's just one tooth. There are 31
others that might go off at a moment's notice, who knows. Usually on a
Saturday (costs extra) or just before a return flight like this one did.
Today I joked with someone at church that I might look into dentists
south of the border. He said that this is exactly what a co-worker of
his had done and he was happy about the results. Interesting concept.
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com

Don't do it.

Our local dentist decided she was competent enough to do root canals
and did one on my wife, instead of sending her to the usual pro with
all the video equipment.

She broke a root :-(

Resulting redo by a pro, opening gum line from side to remove broken
root piece and treat infection... almost $5K.

I debating... sue or just badmouth.

...Jim Thompson

[John Fields]

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:40:15 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
I debating... sue or just badmouth.

---
"Badmouth" a dentist? Funny...

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Joerg
Today I joked with someone at church that I might look into dentists
south of the border. He said that this is exactly what a co-worker of
his had done and he was happy about the results. Interesting concept.

Don't do it.
Our local dentist decided she was competent enough to do root canals
and did one on my wife, instead of sending her to the usual pro with
all the video equipment.
She broke a root :-(
Resulting redo by a pro, opening gum line from side to remove broken
root piece and treat infection... almost $5K.

Ouch! Well, I didn't mean for root canals. Our dentist is a very good
allrounder, doesn't send us to specialists. The downside is that it also
means he is more seasoned in years and will retire will retire. What then?

Post by Jim Thompson
I debating... sue or just badmouth.

At least she should own up to that and contact her insurance. Did you
talk about it with her?

The guy who went to Mexiko had dentures done there, and I believe
crowns. Prices in the US are spiraling so much out of control in
medical. In Europe that's not so extreme but even there people are going
to Hungary to be fixed up.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[Periproct]

Post by Joerg
Hello Richard,

Post by Richard H.
A bit North on Priest is another Amerisuites at Rio Salado Pkwy in Tempe
(along the dry Salt River near the airport) - I've roomed there as low as
$40-60/nt. It's about 6 miles from where you're looking.

That must have been a long, long time ago. I had checked Amerisuites
yesterday. The non-gvt rate was around $150.
I remember paying around $70 for hotel stays in the Phoenix area in the
90's. My impression is that it has roughly doubled. Ok, not as bad as
dentists where the cost seems to inflate 20% each year. Just got a bill
this morning for $800. For one (!) root canal. Ouch. A couple year ago I
had one on a molar on the other side and it was $600. That's almost a
galloping inflation IMHO.

I have just received my 'Classic & Sports Car' magazine here in the UK. It
reports on vandals causing 1 million pounds worth of damage to a dentists 6
million pound classic car collection.
I'm in the wrong job.

[Joerg]

Post by Periproct
I have just received my 'Classic & Sports Car' magazine here in the UK. It
reports on vandals causing 1 million pounds worth of damage to a dentists 6
million pound classic car collection.
I'm in the wrong job.

We both are :-(

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

[GregS]

Post by Joerg
Hello Jim,

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

I don't know much about Corian but silicone is one of the toughest
caulks to get off. The only trick I know is the razor blade thing.
Sometimes I use a piece of Perspex where I sharpened one edge but that
might also scratch. Most likely it isn't just silicone but some kind of
adhesive added in.
Anyway, as far as I know Corian can be buffed.

I tend to want to try harsh agents like lacquer thinner after the chunks are
off. I usually use my fingernails, or razor, or slowly rubbing with Scotchbrite
to remove silicone. After most of it is off, I usually
have to pick at it to get the last off, but some wetting agent, even water and
soap will help. Alcohol is also good. I have never worked with Corian.

greg

[Rich Grise]

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

Brand-new single-edge razor blades can slice through the stuff, and
even scrape it down thin, but it will leave traces - it's probably
soaked into the Corian. I'd look around for folks that work with
Corian and see if they have any ideas - I don't really know how
the surface finish works - if it's as nonporous as, say, marble,
you might be able to scrape it down so thin as to be invisible.

Good Luck!
Rich

[Nico Coesel]

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

Over here silicone rubber remover is sold in shops where they sell
construction materials, wall paper, paint, etc. Works like a charm but
the smell indicates it must be very toxic. Use gloves and make sure
the window is wide open. Using a gas mask is not a bad idea.

[martin.shoebridge]

"> Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.

Post by Jim Thompson
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?
Thanks!

I take it off baths with wire wool....... corian is brick hard like granite
so you should be ok.

[Bob Nielsen]

Post by martin.shoebridge
"> Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.

Post by Jim Thompson
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?
Thanks!

I take it off baths with wire wool....... corian is brick hard like granite
so you should be ok.

Not quite--it scratches fairly easily but can be touched up (carefully)
with fine sandpaper.

DuPont warns against using strong chemicals such as paint remover:

http://www.corian.com/corian/a/en/h/Care/index.html

[redbelly]

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?
Thanks!

I'd hesitate to use a razor blade scraper, as others have suggested.
How about using plexiglass as a scraper instead? Preferably with the
edge bevelled to 45 degrees or so. Maybe a brand new windshield
ice-scraper would work for this, if you're not equipped to cut your
own.

Mark

p.s. I've cross-posted to alt.home.repair, a better place for this
question.

[Jim Thompson]

Post by redbelly

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?
Thanks!

I'd hesitate to use a razor blade scraper, as others have suggested.
How about using plexiglass as a scraper instead? Preferably with the
edge bevelled to 45 degrees or so. Maybe a brand new windshield
ice-scraper would work for this, if you're not equipped to cut your
own.
Mark
p.s. I've cross-posted to alt.home.repair, a better place for this
question.

What's an "ice scraper" ?:-)

Seriously, I remembered I have some plastic putty "knives" which will
probably work.

...Jim Thompson

[redbelly]

Post by Jim Thompson
What's an "ice scraper" ?:-)

Just looked at your address. My bad! :-)

Post by Jim Thompson
Seriously, I remembered I have some plastic putty "knives" which will
probably work.

If they're as thin as mine are, they may be too flimsy for this. I was
thinking at least 3/32" thick might be needed.

Regardless, it's worth a try with what you have on hand. Otherwise, a
few dollars at Home Depot will get you a stiff piece of acrylic or
polycarbonate. Might not even need the beveling I mentioned in my
earlier post.

Good luck,

Mark

[Michael A. Terrell]

Post by redbelly

Post by Jim Thompson
What's an "ice scraper" ?:-)

Just looked at your address. My bad! :-)

Post by Jim Thompson
Seriously, I remembered I have some plastic putty "knives" which will
probably work.

If they're as thin as mine are, they may be too flimsy for this. I was
thinking at least 3/32" thick might be needed.
Regardless, it's worth a try with what you have on hand. Otherwise, a
few dollars at Home Depot will get you a stiff piece of acrylic or
polycarbonate. Might not even need the beveling I mentioned in my
earlier post.
Good luck,
Mark

You can buy plastic "spreaders" made for "Bondo" and other brands of
automotive body putty at most car parts places.

[Goedjn]

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

I haven't tried it with silicone rubber, but I've had good luck
rubbing of other adhesives and encrustations with a plain old
rectangular erasor. (Today seems to be erasor day, for me..)

[Zak]

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

Silicone rubber swells and softens from what we call petroleum or lamp oil.

This is not terribly fast, and teh stuff smells, and may damage corian
as well. AFAIK corian is plexiglass-with-filler, and plexiglass isn't
the most resistant polymer there is.


Thomas

[Jasen Betts]

Post by Zak

Post by Jim Thompson
Shampoo dispenser was hung on shower wall with silicone rubber.
Shower wall material is Corian.
Any cute tricks to remove the silicone rubber without scratching the
Corian?

Silicone rubber swells and softens from what we call petroleum or lamp oil.

gasoline too, DYM parraffin above? terpentine is a good cleanmer for
uncured silicone,

Post by Zak
This is not terribly fast, and teh stuff smells,

Deodorised paraffin is available, it's used in fog macines an smells faintly
of candles.

Post by Zak
and may damage corian
as well. AFAIK corian is plexiglass-with-filler, and plexiglass isn't
the most resistant polymer there is.

perspex will absorb alcohol (slowly), dunno about paraffin.

Bye.
Jasen