Discussion:
Is this UUNet?
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Bob
2003-09-11 00:46:19 UTC
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Supposedly my dialup ISP is providing me connectivity via UUnet. Here
is the trace from Panix to my PC. I have my doubts that this a true
UUnet trace. Also, why do you suppose the trace is unable to complete
the trip all the way to my IP address? When I ping from my PC to say,
shell.panix.com, I cannot even get a response form the first hop. I've
never seen this before.

traceroute to 66.81.51.46 (66.81.51.46), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 user.hsrp.w18.nyc.access.net (166.84.1.30) 0.899 ms 0.624 ms 0.512 ms
2 S8-0-0-T3.l3core.nyc.access.net (166.84.64.14) 1.262 ms 0.971 ms 1.083
ms
3 249.210.8.207.in-addr.arpa (207.8.210.249) 1.326 ms 1.073 ms 1.416 ms
4 169.130.235.13 (169.130.235.13) 1.153 ms 1.829 ms 1.339 ms
5 169.130.44.237 (169.130.44.237) 2.089 ms 1.694 ms 1.507 ms
6 at-gsr1-alb-1-0-OC3.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.30) 4.882 ms 4.926 ms
4.272 ms
7 at-gsr2-syr-3-0-OC12.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.42) 7.309 ms 7.055 ms
7.291 ms
8 so-4-1-2.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.25.133.41) 13.349 ms 13.226 ms
14.797 ms
9 p12-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.7.10) 15.168 ms 13.297 ms 13.365
ms
10 so-5-1-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net (64.159.4.61) 13.867 ms 14.400 ms
13.163 ms
11 gigabitethernet2-1.core1.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.17.69) 13.438 ms
13.315 ms 13.146 ms
12 cogent-level3-oc12.NewYork1.Level3.net (63.211.54.66) 16.990 ms 19.797
ms 18.990 ms
13 p14-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.165) 17.651 ms 15.360
ms 13.291 ms
14 p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.86) 34.204 ms 34.938 ms
36.438 ms
15 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) 48.425 ms 52.014 ms
57.557 ms
16 p5-0.core01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.29) 190.029 ms 331.326 ms
240.577 ms
17 p6-0.core01.smf01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.197) 81.904 ms 80.530 ms
87.706 ms
18 g0-1.na01.b005391-1.smf01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.15.230) 80.466 ms
83.470 ms 89.337 ms
19 g8-0-0.core02.smf01.O1.demarc.com (66.250.4.6) 90.153 ms 90.641 ms
83.225 ms
20 * *

(That's as far as it gets)

Thanks,
Bob
Jay Elston
2003-09-11 04:53:00 UTC
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Well, if were griping about traceroutes now, here's mine:
C:\>tracert deru.com

Tracing route to deru.com [140.99.0.15]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 130 ms 107 ms 129 ms ac01.phnx.eli.net [209.63.25.11]
2 121 ms 129 ms 127 ms fe10-0-0.gw02.phnx.eli.net [209.63.25.9]
3 123 ms 118 ms 123 ms srp2-0.cr01.phnx.eli.net [208.186.20.118]
4 150 ms 148 ms 140 ms p6-1.cr01.lsan.eli.net [207.173.114.45]
5 131 ms 130 ms 150 ms p9-0.cr02.sntd.eli.net [207.173.114.54]
6 140 ms 140 ms 163 ms srp3-0.cr01.sntd.eli.net [208.186.21.33]
7 164 ms 135 ms 150 ms so-0-0-0--0.er01.plal.eli.net
[207.173.114.138]
8 160 ms 150 ms 146 ms gig1-2.edge1.paix-sjo1.Level3.net
[209.245.146.25]
9 156 ms 141 ms 146 ms
GigabitEthernet3-1.core1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.244.3.249]
10 175 ms 141 ms 135 ms ae0-56.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net
[64.159.2.161]
11 175 ms 159 ms 162 ms so-0-0-0.mp2.Phoenix1.level3.net
[209.247.8.122]

12 154 ms 146 ms 162 ms
gigabitethernet11-0.hsipaccess1.Phoenix1.Level3.net [64.159.3.110]
13 149 ms 162 ms 179 ms ge2-2-1000M.4iron.phx1.puregig.net
[63.214.160.154]
14 165 ms 163 ms 162 ms ge2-4-1000m.sw1.core.phx1.puregig.net
[140.99.96.45]
15 172 ms 185 ms 167 ms puregig-deru-1000m.phx1.puregig.net
[140.99.96.114]
16 * * * Request timed out.

Right now, my ISP is deru.com, and I use a dial-up connection. I'll
probably be the last house in Tempe to get wired to DSL...
Post by Bob
Supposedly my dialup ISP is providing me connectivity via UUnet. Here
is the trace from Panix to my PC. I have my doubts that this a true
UUnet trace. Also, why do you suppose the trace is unable to complete
the trip all the way to my IP address? When I ping from my PC to say,
shell.panix.com, I cannot even get a response form the first hop. I've
never seen this before.
traceroute to 66.81.51.46 (66.81.51.46), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 user.hsrp.w18.nyc.access.net (166.84.1.30) 0.899 ms 0.624 ms 0.512 ms
2 S8-0-0-T3.l3core.nyc.access.net (166.84.64.14) 1.262 ms 0.971 ms 1.083
ms
3 249.210.8.207.in-addr.arpa (207.8.210.249) 1.326 ms 1.073 ms 1.416 ms
4 169.130.235.13 (169.130.235.13) 1.153 ms 1.829 ms 1.339 ms
5 169.130.44.237 (169.130.44.237) 2.089 ms 1.694 ms 1.507 ms
6 at-gsr1-alb-1-0-OC3.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.30) 4.882 ms 4.926 ms
4.272 ms
7 at-gsr2-syr-3-0-OC12.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.42) 7.309 ms 7.055 ms
7.291 ms
8 so-4-1-2.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.25.133.41) 13.349 ms 13.226 ms
14.797 ms
9 p12-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.7.10) 15.168 ms 13.297 ms 13.365
ms
10 so-5-1-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net (64.159.4.61) 13.867 ms 14.400 ms
13.163 ms
11 gigabitethernet2-1.core1.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.17.69) 13.438 ms
13.315 ms 13.146 ms
12 cogent-level3-oc12.NewYork1.Level3.net (63.211.54.66) 16.990 ms 19.797
ms 18.990 ms
13 p14-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.165) 17.651 ms 15.360
ms 13.291 ms
14 p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.86) 34.204 ms 34.938 ms
36.438 ms
15 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) 48.425 ms 52.014 ms
57.557 ms
16 p5-0.core01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.29) 190.029 ms 331.326 ms
240.577 ms
17 p6-0.core01.smf01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.197) 81.904 ms 80.530 ms
87.706 ms
18 g0-1.na01.b005391-1.smf01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.15.230) 80.466 ms
83.470 ms 89.337 ms
19 g8-0-0.core02.smf01.O1.demarc.com (66.250.4.6) 90.153 ms 90.641 ms
83.225 ms
20 * *
(That's as far as it gets)
Thanks,
Bob
Bob
2003-09-11 13:55:49 UTC
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And today I am getting a much different trace. I think I'm getting snowed...

~> trace 66.81.208.140
traceroute to 66.81.208.140 (66.81.208.140), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 user.hsrp.w18.nyc.access.net (166.84.1.30) 2.406 ms 5.593 ms 3.003 ms
2 S8-0-0-T3.l3core.nyc.access.net (166.84.64.14) 2.450 ms 1.594 ms 3.094
ms
3 249.210.8.207.in-addr.arpa (207.8.210.249) 3.645 ms 1.754 ms 1.304 ms
4 169.130.235.13 (169.130.235.13) 1.719 ms 2.578 ms 4.973 ms
5 169.130.44.237 (169.130.44.237) 2.672 ms 3.528 ms 2.298 ms
6 at-gsr1-alb-1-0-OC3.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.30) 6.350 ms 7.337 ms
4.980 ms
7 at-gsr2-syr-3-0-OC12.appliedtheory.net (169.130.3.42) 9.988 ms 7.827 ms
8.362 ms
8 so-4-1-2.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.25.133.41) 14.836 ms 14.338 ms
14.932 ms
9 p12-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.7.10) 13.999 ms 15.051 ms 15.016
ms
10 so-5-0-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net (64.159.4.57) 14.575 ms 15.144 ms
15.426 ms
11 ge-6-0-0.edge1.NewYork1.level3.net (64.159.4.146) 17.124 ms 17.237 ms
16.133 ms
12 xo-level3-oc12.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.160.178) 129.113 ms 124.540
ms 119.973 ms
13 p5-1-0-2.RAR2.NYC-NY.us.xo.net (65.106.3.65) 117.850 ms 127.050 ms
130.288 ms
14 p6-0-0.RAR1.Washington-DC.us.xo.net (65.106.0.2) 124.148 ms 130.090 ms
132.440 ms
15 p1-0-0.RAR1.SanJose-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.38) 194.912 ms 186.991 ms
187.794 ms
16 p4-0-0.MAR1.Roseville-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.5.150) 186.167 ms 197.280 ms
200.511 ms
17 p0-0.CHR1.Roseville-CA.us.xo.net (207.88.80.42) 197.129 ms 203.762 ms
206.440 ms
18 66.239.40.6.ptr.us.xo.net (66.239.40.6) 198.459 ms 199.386 ms 197.374
ms
19 smfcor1.o1.com (69.19.221.1) 187.872 ms 192.455 ms 190.700 ms
20 host-69-19-220-18.rev.o1.com (69.19.220.18) 197.145 ms 202.264 ms
202.633 ms
21 * * * ^C
a***@MIX.COM
2003-09-11 16:25:44 UTC
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Post by Bob
Supposedly my dialup ISP is providing me connectivity via UUnet. Here
is the trace from Panix to my PC.
They're lying. O1.COM is usually pretty good, and uses all
the same stuff (hardware).
Post by Bob
Also, why do you suppose the trace is unable to complete
the trip all the way to my IP address?
Someone is probably blocking it, probably due to some virus
that generates lots of the same kind of network packets.
Post by Bob
8 so-4-1-2.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.25.133.41)
BBN is now owned by Level 3.
Post by Bob
10 so-5-1-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net (64.159.4.61)
13 p14-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com
This is another ISP, who among other things ate PSI.
Post by Bob
19 g8-0-0.core02.smf01.O1.demarc.com (66.250.4.6)
I don't know who these guys are..

Billy Y..
Bob
2003-09-12 02:05:49 UTC
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<***@MIX.COM> wrote:
:Bob <***@panix.com> writes:
:
:> Supposedly my dialup ISP is providing me connectivity via UUnet. Here
:> is the trace from Panix to my PC.
:
:They're lying. O1.COM is usually pretty good, and uses all
:the same stuff (hardware).

I don't doubt it, but the price is right...$12/month (150 hours max,
which I really don't expect to use all of) and they offer FastNet Web
Acceleration for another $5/month, which does work as advertised and
makes using a 56K modem for web browsing quite tolerable. So, for
$17/month, I guess I can't complain too much, for that matter I don't
think it would do me any good anyways based upon my various
correspondences I had with them after I signed up...they only seem
interested in giving stock answers to my semi-technical questions about
the networks they use, etc. This is powerhoster.com I'm speaking
of...a Canadian company.

:> 19 g8-0-0.core02.smf01.O1.demarc.com (66.250.4.6)
:
:I don't know who these guys are..

If this hop is somehow connected to the company at www.demarc.com
somehow, it has something to do with network security/intrusion
detection. Actually, this could be good I guess since there could be
some sort of secure firewall just upstream of me I suppose.

Bob

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