Please Don't Send Spam to These Addresses

[Jim Thompson]

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...Jim Thompson

[Active8]

why not?

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson said,

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:59:14 GMT, Active8

Post by Active8
why not?

I just wanted them to not be bothered by the same spam I get ;-)

Post by Active8
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson said,

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

...Jim Thompson

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,

If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.

John

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:56:08 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.
John

I would *never* be *not*nice* ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:12:37 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:56:08 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.
John

I would *never* be *not*nice* ;-)
...Jim Thompson

Thank you. I feel a lot better now.

Want my recipe for Cranberry Beans over Rice?

John

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:20:51 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:12:37 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:56:08 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.
John

I would *never* be *not*nice* ;-)
...Jim Thompson

Thank you. I feel a lot better now.
Want my recipe for Cranberry Beans over Rice?
John

*Cranberry* beans ?? What's that?

...Jim Thompson

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:28:16 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:20:51 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:12:37 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:56:08 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.
John

I would *never* be *not*nice* ;-)
...Jim Thompson

Thank you. I feel a lot better now.
Want my recipe for Cranberry Beans over Rice?
John

*Cranberry* beans ?? What's that?
...Jim Thompson

Well, first let me assure you that they have nothing to do with
cranberries. As if!

Imagine a sorta huge pea pod with maybe 4-6 beans inside, each bean
sorta football shaped, hard, about the size of a marble. Both the pod
and the beans have georgeous swirling green and purple colors; that,
and the ease of popping them open, makes them fun to peel.

Go find a good produce stand and ask; they may be just going out of
season about now. We first discovered them at the Zuni Cafe, and now
make them at home. Worth the effort.

If you can track some down, let me know and I'll post my recipe.

And, to head off the whiners, beans are definitely on-topic when it
comes to circuit design. Brains need protein!

John

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:28:16 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:20:51 -0700, John Larkin

[snip]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by John Larkin
Want my recipe for Cranberry Beans over Rice?
John

*Cranberry* beans ?? What's that?
...Jim Thompson

Well, first let me assure you that they have nothing to do with
cranberries. As if!
Imagine a sorta huge pea pod with maybe 4-6 beans inside, each bean
sorta football shaped, hard, about the size of a marble. Both the pod
and the beans have georgeous swirling green and purple colors; that,
and the ease of popping them open, makes them fun to peel.
Go find a good produce stand and ask; they may be just going out of
season about now. We first discovered them at the Zuni Cafe, and now
make them at home. Worth the effort.
If you can track some down, let me know and I'll post my recipe.
And, to head off the whiners, beans are definitely on-topic when it
comes to circuit design. Brains need protein!
John

Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

And an old WWII ditty:

Beans, beans, the musical fruit,
The more you eat, the more you toot,
The more you toot, the better you feel,
That's why I eat beans at every meal.

...Jim Thompson

[Chuck Harris]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.

-Chuck Harris

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Chuck Harris

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.
-Chuck Harris

Absolutely! We prepare them at home in the microwave then slosh some
Kosher salt over them. Marvelous!

...Jim Thompson

[Rich Grise]

What you're describing aren't soy beans. My cousin raises soy
beans for a living. They come about 3 to a pod, are about the
size of a large pea, and inedible. They make tofu out of them
because the mycelia of the tofu fungi break down the inedible
parts, not to mention that it softens them so that you can
eat them without breaking your teeth.

I don't know what happens if you just soak/boil them like
"ordinary" beans, but I'd speculate that they're pretty
flavorless, as is tofu. >:Q

Cheers!
Rich

Post by Chuck Harris

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.
-Chuck Harris

[Chuck Harris]

Edmame are soybeans and are picked when the pods are still green and
soft (though very fiberous). The pods look just like snowpeas, but
have only 2 to 4 beans in each pod. They taste, and have a texture
that is similar to baby lima beans. No gas production, however.

I currently have 40 acres in soybeans, and they won't be picked
until the pods dry out and the beans are hard. That's the way
they are sold around here. Even dry, they are delicious, but
very crunchy. When they make tofu, they remove all the flavor
and probably vitamins from the natural soybeans

-Chuck

Post by Rich Grise
What you're describing aren't soy beans. My cousin raises soy
beans for a living. They come about 3 to a pod, are about the
size of a large pea, and inedible. They make tofu out of them
because the mycelia of the tofu fungi break down the inedible
parts, not to mention that it softens them so that you can
eat them without breaking your teeth.
I don't know what happens if you just soak/boil them like
"ordinary" beans, but I'd speculate that they're pretty
flavorless, as is tofu. >:Q
Cheers!
Rich

Post by Chuck Harris

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.
-Chuck Harris

[Blair P. Houghton]

Post by Chuck Harris
No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.

You need to score some better tofu.

--Blair
"And learn how to deep-fry it."

[Tim Williams]

Post by Blair P. Houghton
You need to score some better tofu.

I didn't know you could put "tofu" and "score" in the same sentence.

Tim

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"That's for the courts to decide." - Homer Simpson
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

[DarkMatter]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:19:25 -0500, "Tim Williams"

Post by Tim Williams

Post by Blair P. Houghton
You need to score some better tofu.

I didn't know you could put "tofu" and "score" in the same sentence.

Hahahahah... Now, THAT is funny.

[Chuck Harris]

I have, my sister-in-law is a veggie, and lives on the stuff.
She buys in bulk from one of the local veggie-markets.

Inspite of the freshness, and quality of preparation it still
tastes like bland sponge rubber to me.

Tofu is so bland that it ends up tasting like what ever it is
cooked in. Cook it in grease, it tastes like grease. Cook it
in chili, it tastes like chili sauce...

You need to try some Edmame. It tastes like it was once alive.

-Chuck

Post by Blair P. Houghton

Post by Chuck Harris
No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.

You need to score some better tofu.
--Blair
"And learn how to deep-fry it."

[Blair P. Houghton]

Post by Chuck Harris
You need to try some Edmame. It tastes like it was once alive.

I've had more edamame than you've had oxygen molecules.

And you're still getting bad tofu.

--Blair
"Try miso, too."

[Mark Jones]

Post by Chuck Harris

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.
-Chuck Harris

The local supermarket used to sell natural soybeans roasted and salted, and
they were very good. They're like a cross between a bean flavor and a
peanut, and are quite crunchy. Very high in protein, excellent snack.

Alas, they are no longer in the stores... wonder what happened?

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Mark Jones

Post by Chuck Harris

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin
Sounds like Edamame, of which I eat copious amounts while awaiting my
sashimi order ;-)

No, Edmame are soy beans. They come two to a pod. and look like baby
lima beans. They taste so good it makes me wonder why anyone would want
to ruin them by making them into tofu.
-Chuck Harris

The local supermarket used to sell natural soybeans roasted and salted, and
they were very good. They're like a cross between a bean flavor and a
peanut, and are quite crunchy. Very high in protein, excellent snack.
Alas, they are no longer in the stores... wonder what happened?

We have Sushi places in a lot of our supermarkets (†). They usually
have a cold case with pre-packaged Edamame.

(†) For example AJ's has restaurant-quality Sushi and Sashimi.

...Jim Thompson

[John Woodgate]

Post by Mark Jones
Alas, they are no longer in the stores... wonder what happened?

Somebody found 0.0001 parts per trillion of mercury in them? (;-)

[Bill Sloman]

Post by John Woodgate

Post by Mark Jones
Alas, they are no longer in the stores... wonder what happened?

Somebody found 0.0001 parts per trillion of mercury in them? (;-)

Is that an American trillion (10^12) or a UK trillion (10^18)?

In either case, whoever it was is to be congratulated - they've pushed out
the sensitivity boundary of elemental analysis quite a long way. Do you know
anything about the analytical technique involved?

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[John Woodgate]

Post by Bill Sloman

Post by John Woodgate

Post by Mark Jones
Alas, they are no longer in the stores... wonder what happened?

Somebody found 0.0001 parts per trillion of mercury in them? (;-)

Is that an American trillion (10^12) or a UK trillion (10^18)?

As far as I'm concerned, the old UK nomenclature is obsolete. But it's
true that we don't use 'parts per xxxx' (nor even 'ppm') in standards
because of this ambiguity.

Post by Bill Sloman
In either case, whoever it was is to be congratulated - they've pushed out
the sensitivity boundary of elemental analysis quite a long way. Do you know
anything about the analytical technique involved?

I understand it involves a rock with a 3-pin connector.

[Paul Burridge]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
And, to head off the whiners, beans are definitely on-topic when it
comes to circuit design. Brains need protein!

I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time! You should know that by now or I've been
wasting my time with all the donut-related advice I've given on this
group. :(

[Bill Garber]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
And, to head off the whiners, beans are definitely on-topic when it
comes to circuit design. Brains need protein!

I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time! You should know that by now or I've been
wasting my time with all the donut-related advice I've given on this
group. :(
"Windows [n.], A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch
to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit
microprocessor and produced by a two bit company."

This almost adds up to 64 bit. ;-)

Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez };-)
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Email - ***@comXcast.net
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Post by Paul Burridge
I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time!

That's for sure!! For those in the LA area, or even passing through
LAX with some time to kill, I highly recommend Randy's Donuts. See
http://www.randysdonuts.com/ for info. Definitely way above average
and it's easy to find with the monster donut on top of the place and
they're even open 24 hours a day.

Billy Y..

[Baphomet]

Post by a***@MIX.COM

Post by Paul Burridge
I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time!

That's for sure!! For those in the LA area, or even passing through
LAX with some time to kill, I highly recommend Randy's Donuts. See
http://www.randysdonuts.com/ for info. Definitely way above average
and it's easy to find with the monster donut on top of the place and
they're even open 24 hours a day.
Billy Y..

But do they ship to the East Coast?

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:01:54 -0800, the renowned "Baphomet"

Post by Baphomet

Post by a***@MIX.COM

Post by Paul Burridge
I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time!

That's for sure!! For those in the LA area, or even passing through
LAX with some time to kill, I highly recommend Randy's Donuts. See
http://www.randysdonuts.com/ for info. Definitely way above average
and it's easy to find with the monster donut on top of the place and
they're even open 24 hours a day.
Billy Y..

But do they ship to the East Coast?

Their coffee is not so good.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

[Baphomet]

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:01:54 -0800, the renowned "Baphomet"

Post by Baphomet

Post by a***@MIX.COM

Post by Paul Burridge
I disagree, John. You go ahead and eat your beans; I'll stick with my
donuts and we'll see who can solve the more complex equation.
Carbohydrates win every time!

That's for sure!! For those in the LA area, or even passing through
LAX with some time to kill, I highly recommend Randy's Donuts. See
http://www.randysdonuts.com/ for info. Definitely way above average
and it's easy to find with the monster donut on top of the place and
they're even open 24 hours a day.
Billy Y..

But do they ship to the East Coast?

Their coffee is not so good.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Donuts....Hold the coffee please ;-)

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:09:28 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson
*Cranberry* beans ?? What's that?
...Jim Thompson

Well, first let me assure you that they have nothing to do with
cranberries. As if!
Imagine a sorta huge pea pod with maybe 4-6 beans inside, each bean
sorta football shaped, hard, about the size of a marble. Both the pod
and the beans have georgeous swirling green and purple colors; that,
and the ease of popping them open, makes them fun to peel.
Go find a good produce stand and ask; they may be just going out of
season about now. We first discovered them at the Zuni Cafe, and now
make them at home. Worth the effort.
If you can track some down, let me know and I'll post my recipe.
And, to head off the whiners, beans are definitely on-topic when it
comes to circuit design. Brains need protein!
John

See a.b.s.e. for a Timely Bean Update.

John

[Blair P. Houghton]

Post by John Larkin
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.

Neither is what's being done by the people whose addresses
those are, most of the time.

--Blair
"Politicians. Spammers.
Tough call."

[James Meyer]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:56:08 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:46:35 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim,
If you're doing what I think you're doing, it is *not*nice*.
John

Perhaps he's just going to do it until he needs glasses.

Jim "The other one." Meyer

[Oppie]

What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/

Oppie
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Post by Jim Thompson
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
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[snip]

Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.

On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.

...Jim Thompson

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:26:17 -0700, Jim Thompson

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson

Here on the Left Coast it's 1.1%, but that's based on purchase price;
they can't reassess a house to its current market value unless it's
sold, so I'm paying under $5K on a house worth, well, about 950. The
next buyer will of course get soaked.

John

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:14:21 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:26:17 -0700, Jim Thompson

[snip]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson

Here on the Left Coast it's 1.1%, but that's based on purchase price;
they can't reassess a house to its current market value unless it's
sold, so I'm paying under $5K on a house worth, well, about 950. The
next buyer will of course get soaked.
John

But that be Californicator pricing. Around here $950K would buy you
one hell of a house.

...Jim Thompson

[Ken Taylor]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:14:21 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:26:17 -0700, Jim Thompson

[snip]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson

Here on the Left Coast it's 1.1%, but that's based on purchase price;
they can't reassess a house to its current market value unless it's
sold, so I'm paying under $5K on a house worth, well, about 950. The
next buyer will of course get soaked.
John

But that be Californicator pricing. Around here $950K would buy you
one hell of a house.
...Jim Thompson
--

US$950k would buy most of NZ! :-) Just kidding - there's a few houses here
worth that, but not too many! There's no duty on house sale/purchase though,
which is cool, coming from Australia where it's higher than even you guys
pay.

And I just love "Californicator" - first time seen! :-)

Ken

[Jim Thompson]

Post by Ken Taylor

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:14:21 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:26:17 -0700, Jim Thompson

[snip]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson

Here on the Left Coast it's 1.1%, but that's based on purchase price;
they can't reassess a house to its current market value unless it's
sold, so I'm paying under $5K on a house worth, well, about 950. The
next buyer will of course get soaked.
John

But that be Californicator pricing. Around here $950K would buy you
one hell of a house.
...Jim Thompson
--

US$950k would buy most of NZ! :-) Just kidding - there's a few houses here
worth that, but not too many! There's no duty on house sale/purchase though,
which is cool, coming from Australia where it's higher than even you guys
pay.
And I just love "Californicator" - first time seen! :-)
Ken

Not original with me, but I don't know where I picked up that phrase.

The house prices in Arizona are now referred to as being
"Californicated", driven way up by Californians coming to Arizona and
paying the asking price.

For example, we bought our present place (3650 sq.ft. single-level on
almost a 1/2 acre lot in the Ahwatukee Foothills) for $360K in 1994;
it now appraises at $550K.

...Jim Thompson

[Richard Crowley]

"Jim Thompson" wrote ...

Post by Jim Thompson
The house prices in Arizona are now referred to as being
"Californicated", driven way up by Californians coming
to Arizona and paying the asking price.

Same effect (and same term) here in Oregon.

[Rich Grise]

The first time I heard "californicate" was in, I think, Playboy
magazine, in the 1960's or 1970's, when Oregon passed a "personal
use" law (less than an ounce of pot was lowered to a citation,
not even a misdemeanor.) Almost immediately, in response to the
vast influx of Californians who just wanted to get high in peace,
some Oregonian came up with a bumper sticker: "Don't Californicate
Oregon."

Cheers!
Rich

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Ken Taylor

Post by Jim Thompson
But that be Californicator pricing. Around here $950K would buy you
one hell of a house.
...Jim Thompson
--

US$950k would buy most of NZ! :-) Just kidding - there's a few houses here
worth that, but not too many! There's no duty on house sale/purchase though,
which is cool, coming from Australia where it's higher than even you guys
pay.
And I just love "Californicator" - first time seen! :-)
Ken

Not original with me, but I don't know where I picked up that phrase.
The house prices in Arizona are now referred to as being
"Californicated", driven way up by Californians coming to Arizona and
paying the asking price.
For example, we bought our present place (3650 sq.ft. single-level on
almost a 1/2 acre lot in the Ahwatukee Foothills) for $360K in 1994;
it now appraises at $550K.
...Jim Thompson

[Baphomet]

Post by Rich Grise
The first time I heard "californicate" was in, I think, Playboy
magazine, in the 1960's or 1970's, when Oregon passed a "personal
use" law (less than an ounce of pot was lowered to a citation,
not even a misdemeanor.) Almost immediately, in response to the
vast influx of Californians who just wanted to get high in peace,
some Oregonian came up with a bumper sticker: "Don't Californicate
Oregon."
Cheers!
Rich

"Californicate" the planet. Maybe there would be less grief.

[George Patrick]

Post by Baphomet
"Californicate" the planet. Maybe there would be less grief.

Yeah, we all could get high and have nowhere to live :) The housing proces here
in the Portland area are horrible, thanks to "californication"

[Rich Grise]

Ick. Have you ever been there?

Post by Baphomet

Post by Rich Grise
The first time I heard "californicate" was in, I think, Playboy
magazine, in the 1960's or 1970's, when Oregon passed a "personal
use" law (less than an ounce of pot was lowered to a citation,
not even a misdemeanor.) Almost immediately, in response to the
vast influx of Californians who just wanted to get high in peace,
some Oregonian came up with a bumper sticker: "Don't Californicate
Oregon."
Cheers!
Rich

"Californicate" the planet. Maybe there would be less grief.

[John Larkin]

Post by Rich Grise
Ick. Have you ever been there?

California is a nice, perfectly normal place. We went out for
breakfast this morning at Destination Baking down the hill on Chenery
street, had coffee and pastries just like normal Americans. A nice,
wholesome couple passed on the street, pushing a baby buggy. She was
small, plump, and cute, with horizontally-layered pink and black hair,
and he was a big burly guy wearing a pullover shirt and a nice pleated
denim skirt.

Just like anywhere else.

John

[Jim Thompson]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:52:27 -0800, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Ick. Have you ever been there?

California is a nice, perfectly normal place. We went out for
breakfast this morning at Destination Baking down the hill on Chenery
street, had coffee and pastries just like normal Americans. A nice,
wholesome couple passed on the street, pushing a baby buggy. She was
small, plump, and cute, with horizontally-layered pink and black hair,
and he was a big burly guy wearing a pullover shirt and a nice pleated
denim skirt.
Just like anywhere else.
John

ROTFLMAO!

...Jim Thompson

[Bill Sloman]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Ick. Have you ever been there?

California is a nice, perfectly normal place. We went out for
breakfast this morning at Destination Baking down the hill on Chenery
street, had coffee and pastries just like normal Americans. A nice,
wholesome couple passed on the street, pushing a baby buggy. She was
small, plump, and cute, with horizontally-layered pink and black hair,
and he was a big burly guy wearing a pullover shirt and a nice pleated
denim skirt.
Just like anywhere else.

Scotland, anyway, though the horizontally layered pink and black hair sounds
a bit conservative for the Scots, and the nicely pleated skirt would be made
in some noisesome tartan pattern. I don't think the Levi clan has registered
a tartan.

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[Ross Mac]

Ever been to Provincetown Mass??? I thought San Francisco was an
eye-opener!!! The farther I got down the street, the closer I felt to Sadam
and Gomorah!

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Ick. Have you ever been there?

California is a nice, perfectly normal place. We went out for
breakfast this morning at Destination Baking down the hill on Chenery
street, had coffee and pastries just like normal Americans. A nice,
wholesome couple passed on the street, pushing a baby buggy. She was
small, plump, and cute, with horizontally-layered pink and black hair,
and he was a big burly guy wearing a pullover shirt and a nice pleated
denim skirt.
Just like anywhere else.
John

[DarkMatter]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:04:48 GMT, "Ross Mac"

Post by Ross Mac
Ever been to Provincetown Mass??? I thought San Francisco was an
eye-opener!!! The farther I got down the street, the closer I felt to Sadam
and Gomorah!

If you are going to declare it, at least look it up and spell it
correctly.

Then, refrain from being a Usenet retard by not top posting it. Doh!

[Ross Mac]

Sure have, I live there...you are right on the "ick" comment in Southern
Cal, unless you are priveleged enough to live on the cliffs overlooking the
beach! But bring money....millions!
Have you ever been to Carmel, Monterey or Marin?...there are some great
places there!

Post by Rich Grise
Ick. Have you ever been there?

Post by Baphomet

Post by Rich Grise
The first time I heard "californicate" was in, I think, Playboy
magazine, in the 1960's or 1970's, when Oregon passed a "personal
use" law (less than an ounce of pot was lowered to a citation,
not even a misdemeanor.) Almost immediately, in response to the
vast influx of Californians who just wanted to get high in peace,
some Oregonian came up with a bumper sticker: "Don't Californicate
Oregon."
Cheers!
Rich

"Californicate" the planet. Maybe there would be less grief.

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:00 GMT, "Ross Mac"

Post by Ross Mac
Sure have, I live there...you are right on the "ick" comment in Southern
Cal, unless you are priveleged enough to live on the cliffs overlooking the
beach! But bring money....millions!
Have you ever been to Carmel, Monterey or Marin?...there are some great
places there!

If you're in Marin County, don't miss this:

http://www.nikemissile.org/site_sf88.htm


John

[Ross Mac]

I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains but don't think I would like that sucker
in my back yard!!!

Post by John Larkin
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:00 GMT, "Ross Mac"

Post by Ross Mac
Sure have, I live there...you are right on the "ick" comment in Southern
Cal, unless you are priveleged enough to live on the cliffs overlooking the
beach! But bring money....millions!
Have you ever been to Carmel, Monterey or Marin?...there are some great
places there!

http://www.nikemissile.org/site_sf88.htm
John

[Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"]

Post by John Larkin
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:00 GMT, "Ross Mac"

Post by Ross Mac
Sure have, I live there...you are right on the "ick" comment in Southern
Cal, unless you are priveleged enough to live on the cliffs overlooking the
beach! But bring money....millions!
Have you ever been to Carmel, Monterey or Marin?...there are some great
places there!

Carmel, Marin, or Monterey (I took basic training at Ft. Ord) are some
of the most beautiful places along the coast. They're great for
visiting, but as far as living there, I dunno. They're right on the San
Andreas Fault. Remember that earthquake that pancaked the freeways and
broke the Bay Bridge?

Post by John Larkin
http://www.nikemissile.org/site_sf88.htm

I was stationed at a Nike Herc site when I was in the army back in '69.
For the most part, those Nike missile sites are closed and torn down,
except for a few that were National Guard, or were made into museums.

Many people back then didn't realize that these missile sites were all
over the place, not far from where they lived. The one I was stationed
at was in Minneapolis, close to The Mall of America.

Post by John Larkin
John

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where there is no possessive sense, as in ~tea's are served here~;
(ii) there is no such word as ~her's, our's, their's, your's~.

Confusions: it's = it is or it has (not 'belonging to it'); correct
uses are ~it's here~ (= it is here); ~it's gone~ (= it has gone);
but ~the dog wagged its tail~ (no apostrophe).
----------------(For the Apostrophe challenged)----------------
From a fully deputized officer of the Apostrophe Police!

<<Spammers use Weapons of Mass Distraction!>>

I bought some batteries, but they weren't included,
so I had to buy them again.
-- Steven Wright

FOR SALE: Nice parachute: never opened - used once.

(Problem) Evidence of leak on right main landing gear
(Solution) Evidence removed

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[Ross Mac]

Post by Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"

Post by John Larkin
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:00 GMT, "Ross Mac"

Post by Ross Mac
Sure have, I live there...you are right on the "ick" comment in Southern
Cal, unless you are priveleged enough to live on the cliffs overlooking the
beach! But bring money....millions!
Have you ever been to Carmel, Monterey or Marin?...there are some great
places there!

Carmel, Marin, or Monterey (I took basic training at Ft. Ord) are some
of the most beautiful places along the coast. They're great for
visiting, but as far as living there, I dunno. They're right on the San
Andreas Fault. Remember that earthquake that pancaked the freeways and
broke the Bay Bridge?

I sure do...October of 89!...That one cost me about 15 thousand in damage!
Take your pick from Alaska to Mexico...Quakes from top to bottom! There is a
highway that runs from San Jose to Santa Cruz called Hwy 17. You should have
seen it! A mountain moved to the center divider and about 75% of the center
divider was ripped into pieces and yes, lucky me...that was my commute
route!

Post by Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"

Post by John Larkin
http://www.nikemissile.org/site_sf88.htm

I was stationed at a Nike Herc site when I was in the army back in '69.
For the most part, those Nike missile sites are closed and torn down,
except for a few that were National Guard, or were made into museums.
Many people back then didn't realize that these missile sites were all
over the place, not far from where they lived. The one I was stationed
at was in Minneapolis, close to The Mall of America.

Post by John Larkin
John

--
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PUNCTUATION - Apostrophe
Incorrect uses: (i) the apostrophe must not be used with a plural
where there is no possessive sense, as in ~tea's are served here~;
(ii) there is no such word as ~her's, our's, their's, your's~.
Confusions: it's = it is or it has (not 'belonging to it'); correct
uses are ~it's here~ (= it is here); ~it's gone~ (= it has gone);
but ~the dog wagged its tail~ (no apostrophe).
----------------(For the Apostrophe challenged)----------------
From a fully deputized officer of the Apostrophe Police!
<<Spammers use Weapons of Mass Distraction!>>
I bought some batteries, but they weren't included,
so I had to buy them again.
-- Steven Wright
FOR SALE: Nice parachute: never opened - used once.
(Problem) Evidence of leak on right main landing gear
(Solution) Evidence removed
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[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:16:28 -0800, "Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the
Dark Remover\"" <***@dslextreme.com> wrote:

[snip]

Post by Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"
I was stationed at a Nike Herc site when I was in the army back in '69.
For the most part, those Nike missile sites are closed and torn down,
except for a few that were National Guard, or were made into museums.
Many people back then didn't realize that these missile sites were all
over the place, not far from where they lived. The one I was stationed
at was in Minneapolis, close to The Mall of America.

John

My radar class at MIT visited a Nike site in New Hampshire. They
practiced by locking their radar onto commercial aircraft approaching
Logan Airport in Boston ;-)

...Jim Thompson

[Keith R. Williams]

Post by Jim Thompson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:16:28 -0800, "Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the
[snip]

Post by Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"
I was stationed at a Nike Herc site when I was in the army back in '69.
For the most part, those Nike missile sites are closed and torn down,
except for a few that were National Guard, or were made into museums.
Many people back then didn't realize that these missile sites were all
over the place, not far from where they lived. The one I was stationed
at was in Minneapolis, close to The Mall of America.

John

My radar class at MIT visited a Nike site in New Hampshire. They
practiced by locking their radar onto commercial aircraft approaching
Logan Airport in Boston ;-)

My first manager was a reservist and did time on a Nike battery
in NJ. They damned near shot down a commercial jet playing such
games. They didn't have everything safed and the bird just about
flew. That would have been a big oops, considering that the Nike
had a nuke warhead (few knew it at the time). He was surprised
that I knew, since it was classified. (...how else to shoot down
incoming missles in the 60s?)

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:16:28 -0800, "Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the

Post by Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"
Carmel, Marin, or Monterey (I took basic training at Ft. Ord) are some
of the most beautiful places along the coast. They're great for
visiting, but as far as living there, I dunno. They're right on the San
Andreas Fault. Remember that earthquake that pancaked the freeways and
broke the Bay Bridge?

Thing is, hurricanes and tornadoes kill hundreds of times as many
people in this country as earthquakes... so far, at least. A good Gulf
hurricane can kill hundreds of people at a whack.

John

[Greg Pierce]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:14:39 +1300, the highly esteemed Ken Taylor

Post by Ken Taylor

Post by Jim Thompson
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:14:21 -0700, John Larkin

Post by John Larkin
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:26:17 -0700, Jim Thompson

[snip]

Post by John Larkin

Post by Jim Thompson
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson

Here on the Left Coast it's 1.1%, but that's based on purchase price;
they can't reassess a house to its current market value unless it's
sold, so I'm paying under $5K on a house worth, well, about 950. The
next buyer will of course get soaked.
John

But that be Californicator pricing. Around here $950K would buy you one
hell of a house.
...Jim Thompson
--

US$950k would buy most of NZ! :-) Just kidding - there's a few houses
here worth that, but not too many! There's no duty on house sale/purchase
though, which is cool, coming from Australia where it's higher than even
you guys pay.
And I just love "Californicator" - first time seen! :-)

It is also known as the Peoples Republic of California (or Peoples
Republic of Kalifornia). If you have ever been there, it is pretty
easy to figure out why :-(

[Rich Grise]

Yes, and "we"'ve just elected the People's Governor, right?

Post by Greg Pierce
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:14:39 +1300, the highly esteemed Ken Taylor

...

Post by Greg Pierce

Post by Ken Taylor
And I just love "Californicator" - first time seen! :-)

It is also known as the Peoples Republic of California (or Peoples
Republic of Kalifornia). If you have ever been there, it is pretty
easy to figure out why :-(

[John Larkin]

Post by Rich Grise
Yes, and "we"'ve just elected the People's Governor, right?

Politics is one of the few professions where amateurs do better than
professionals.

John

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0800, the renowned John Larkin

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Yes, and "we"'ve just elected the People's Governor, right?

Politics is one of the few professions where amateurs do better than
professionals.

Hmm.. I can think of another, somewhat similar, one.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:55:40 GMT, Spehro Pefhany

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0800, the renowned John Larkin

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Yes, and "we"'ve just elected the People's Governor, right?

Politics is one of the few professions where amateurs do better than
professionals.

Hmm.. I can think of another, somewhat similar, one.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Now what might that be ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

[Keith R. Williams]

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0800, the renowned John Larkin

Post by John Larkin

Post by Rich Grise
Yes, and "we"'ve just elected the People's Governor, right?

Politics is one of the few professions where amateurs do better than
professionals.

Hmm.. I can think of another, somewhat similar, one.

Hmm, amateur pimp. Howz that work?

[GPE]

With your first message - I thought it was just plain rude.
But with the explanation below - I think you got a good idea. We need a
list of each and every senator, representative, governor, legislator, etc.
Maybe then they'll do something about this spam crap.

.... how can the demand for "pen1s enlargers" possbly be that high ?!?!?!?!

-- Ed

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.
...Jim Thompson
--
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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:40:52 -0500, the renowned "GPE"

Post by GPE
With your first message - I thought it was just plain rude.
But with the explanation below - I think you got a good idea. We need a
list of each and every senator, representative, governor, legislator, etc.
Maybe then they'll do something about this spam crap.
.... how can the demand for "pen1s enlargers" possbly be that high ?!?!?!?!

We need to eliminate the little pricks that are paying for having
their ads disseminated.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

[Mark Zenier]

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:40:52 -0500, the renowned "GPE"

Post by GPE
With your first message - I thought it was just plain rude.
But with the explanation below - I think you got a good idea. We need a
list of each and every senator, representative, governor, legislator, etc.
Maybe then they'll do something about this spam crap.
.... how can the demand for "pen1s enlargers" possbly be that high ?!?!?!?!

We need to eliminate the little pricks that are paying for having
their ads disseminated.

If their products actually work, they aren't LITTLE pricks.

Mark Zenier ***@eskimo.com Washington State resident

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:52:48 GMT, Spehro Pefhany

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:40:52 -0500, the renowned "GPE"

Post by GPE
With your first message - I thought it was just plain rude.
But with the explanation below - I think you got a good idea. We need a
list of each and every senator, representative, governor, legislator, etc.
Maybe then they'll do something about this spam crap.
.... how can the demand for "pen1s enlargers" possbly be that high ?!?!?!?!

We need to eliminate the little pricks that are paying for having
their ads disseminated.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

On one of the other ng's, someone commented on the "increase your size
by three inches" ads; he said he knew how to do that already.

John

[onestone]

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.

I'd rather have my real estate tax bill. 0%.

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:44:22 GMT, the renowned onestone

Post by onestone

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.

I'd rather have my real estate tax bill. 0%.

You living on a boat these days, Al?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

[onestone]

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:44:22 GMT, the renowned onestone

Post by onestone

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.

I'd rather have my real estate tax bill. 0%.

You living on a boat these days, Al?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I'd like to! Swombo (She WhO Must Be Obeyed) and I went on a cruise in
May for my 50th, and our 29th wedding anniversary, around the pacific. I
'd happily be there right now.

Close, just a stones throw from the beach, but we don't have annual
taxes on property. We don't pay annual taxes on anything we own, except
stocks/shares and capital investments, when you are taxed on profits.
The only property tax is a 'stamp duty' when you buy the property and
annual local council (county) rates that cover sewage, garbage disposal,
street cleaning, etc etc. This council rate for me is AUS$540 pa, around
US$380. I assume that similar rates/taxes exist in most places. In fact
we have a neat thing here called negative gearing, I can actually get a
tax rebate on the property I own if I rent it out.

Al

[Ross Mac]

They even tax boats and planes in California!!!

Post by Spehro Pefhany
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:44:22 GMT, the renowned onestone

Post by onestone

Post by Jim Thompson

Post by Oppie
What happened Jim? You just get your tax bill and are teed off at all your
state legislature?
Hell hath no fury like an engineer scorned <G>
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/
Oppie
=========

[snip]
Just applying a lesson to the fools who think an OPT-OUT law will
prevent spam.
On real estate taxes I think we in Arizona get a pretty low rate...
~0.7% of full-cash-value... $3900 taxes on a $550K house.

I'd rather have my real estate tax bill. 0%.

You living on a boat these days, Al?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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